This is the main reason(s) I choose Onlineauction.com

**#16**

innerpuppie wrote (View Post): › As I posted earlier in another thread, your opinion means nothing because its bias, especially with that banner at the bottom. Sho fly don't bother me
Sho fly don't bother me
Sho fly don't bother me
I don't want your company
Flies in the buttermilk two by two
Flies in the buttermilk sho fly sho
Flies in the buttermilk skip to my lou
Skip to the lou my darling

This poster is CALLMEMOMO who uses little songs and poems on OLA to belittle sellers who push for responsible answers. Or, another thought, could be METZYMOM, she likes to drop houses on people and use old movies to belittle people.

Nonetheless, OLA cheerleaders generally will begin to belittle posters here and on OLA when the poster in questions makes a concrete statement that can't be refuted. So, they act like little kids in a playground and call names.

This type of conduct alerts the educated, responsible and mature seller of the back-handed, childish and moronic conduct of the OLA cheerleaders.

Obviously not me innerpuppie. Why don't you try to get at least one thing right once in a while? And I DEFY you to find ANY post where I have EVER used the words of a song or poem for any reason ANYWHERE!! I don't use multiple ID's anywhere so please feel free to search the whole internet. Have fun.

**#17**

Nonetheless, OLA cheerleaders generally will begin to belittle posters here and on OLA when the poster in questions makes a concrete statement that can't be refuted. So, they act like little kids in a playground and call names.

This type of conduct alerts the educated, responsible and mature seller of the back-handed, childish and moronic conduct of the OLA cheerleaders.

**#18**

I have never used a posting ID. Don't believe in them. If I can't say what I want to say using my own ID, then it probably wouldn't be worth saying or hearing at all. In my 10 years on Ebay, I never used a posting ID. And, I was a regular on some of the forums way back when. I used to be on The Soap Box al the time until we had the Holy Wars. Anyone remember those fun days! Rolling Eyes

I left that place to the bullies. If any of you think the OLA boards are bad, you should have seen what the Ebay boards were like, and still are. Talk about not being able to ask a question on the forums, your lucky if you can get out of there with the skin on your back. It doesn't have to be that way. Grownups should be able to talk amongst themseleves without going off the deep end just because someone has a different perspective on ideas and methods used for selling. We all have alot more in common then the other way around. But, to hear some of what goes on in here, you would think we were mortal enemies.

I haven't seen any out and out lies from either side. What I do see is alot of misinformation, things stated as fact that aren't . So called experiences that are 3 and 4 years old. Get a grip, this is 2008, things change. Name calling, cheerleaders, naysayers etc; They don't really mean anything. JUst words thrown out to gain the desired affect of bellittling another selllers use of an auction site, because you guys no whats best for all of us. Right!

What would you think, if I went on and on about something on Ebay that has changed or not come to fruition in the last 12 years. My experience back then, is not my experience now. Ebay has changed so much, it is barely recognizable in it's current state. OLA would have to go along way to ever do to it's users what Ebay has done to theirs. There is no comparison at all.

None of these smaller sites will ever be like Ebay, but that doesn't mean we can't use them and make money, you just have to be more creative. I sold 6 out of 10 items on OLA, and sold 2 items on Ebay out of 40 listed in the same exact time frame. The numbers don't lie. So, for me, OLA is doing a better job then Ebay, and I am in it to make $$, so thats where I will park my bus. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot the most important part of this long rant, my Ebay bill was $47.50, and my OLA bill was zero. My results on Overstock are even better. I just sold a ring for $386.00 on Overstock, and had it on OLA for $59.50. There loss y gain. I am no fool when it comes to business. Cheers! Very Happy

**#19**

brightgems4u wrote (View Post): ›
I have never used a posting ID. Don't believe in them. If I can't say what I want to say using my own ID, then it probably wouldn't be worth saying or hearing at all. In my 10 years on Ebay, I never used a posting ID. And, I was a regular on some of the forums way back when. I used to be on The Soap Box al the time until we had the Holy Wars. Anyone remember those fun days! Rolling Eyes

I left that place to the bullies. If any of you think the OLA boards are bad, you should have seen what the Ebay boards were like, and still are. Talk about not being able to ask a question on the forums, your lucky if you can get out of there with the skin on your back. It doesn't have to be that way. Grownups should be able to talk amongst themseleves without going off the deep end just because someone has a different perspective on ideas and methods used for selling. We all have alot more in common then the other way around. But, to hear some of what goes on in here, you would think we were mortal enemies.

I haven't seen any out and out lies from either side. What I do see is alot of misinformation, things stated as fact that aren't . So called experiences that are 3 and 4 years old. Get a grip, this is 2008, things change. Name calling, cheerleaders, naysayers etc; They don't really mean anything. JUst words thrown out to gain the desired affect of bellittling another selllers use of an auction site, because you guys no whats best for all of us. Right!

What would you think, if I went on and on about something on Ebay that has changed or not come to fruition in the last 12 years. My experience back then, is not my experience now. Ebay has changed so much, it is barely recognizable in it's current state. OLA would have to go along way to ever do to it's users what Ebay has done to theirs. There is no comparison at all.

None of these smaller sites will ever be like Ebay, but that doesn't mean we can't use them and make money, you just have to be more creative. I sold 6 out of 10 items on OLA, and sold 2 items on Ebay out of 40 listed in the same exact time frame. The numbers don't lie. So, for me, OLA is doing a better job then Ebay, and I am in it to make $$, so thats where I will park my bus. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot the most important part of this long rant, my Ebay bill was $47.50, and my OLA bill was zero. My results on Overstock are even better. I just sold a ring for $386.00 on Overstock, and had it on OLA for $59.50. There loss y gain. I am no fool when it comes to business. Cheers! Very Happy

You are so right about the name calling etc. I do use a different ID than on OLA because several months ago I asked a few questions and got blasted. I was also blocked from bidding from 3 sellers - all I wanted to know was why didn't OLA keep us informed as to what the changes were going to be and the new time frame since they couldn't meet the May deadline. I was told to be patient, use the chat more often and play games to get some sales.

I joined OLA in February after hearing about it through the ebay boards. I have admitted that it is my own fault for not doing more research before investing $200 for Founding Member and another $300 in advertising . In 6 months at OLA I have had 8 sales. In June I started listing again at ebay and have done pretty well. My STR is averaging 70% with the prices 20% higher than they were on OLA. My feedback score is still 100% with nearly 9,000 feedbacks.

It is funny nothing had been listed here for a few days but on the OLA boards they kept up the name calling (trolls, ebay spies, etc) and the horrible video.

Until the changes truly come around and completed search is functioning, I will continue with ebay and my other sites. I would love for OLA to succeed but as of today they are still ranked by Alexa as #116,891 versus blujay at #46,322 and ebay at #8.

**#20**

Since you mentioned Alexa, I went there to take a look at OLA and see a 42% drop in the last 3 months, as well as 45,849 traffic rank drop.

Yes they spiked earlier in the year when the ebay boycott was happening, and they had cheerleaders jumping and screaming everywhere, but then couldn't hold those stats.. as it shows now, coz the site is just bad. Service is also bad.

They've been around for so long already, longer than blujay and many many others, yet show little progress and promise to ever make it big.

**#21**

Hi confused. That should be my middle name Laughing

I was born confused. Thanks for sharing with me your personal experience. I am very sorry if you got jumped on by any OLA members. It's not right to belittle folks who are wanting to know what is going on, and why they aren't making very many sales. I never lie to people, and I don't encourage them to join as Founding Members either. I don't think a new user should jump right in without checking it out for awhile, and seeing how sales are going.

The $8.00 a month for the basic membership is best for new users in IMO. Then after they have more info to go on, thats when they should decide if becoming a FM is worth it or not. I did it simply to get the 20 Featured auctions. Every penny of the FM cost goes right back to the seller in upgrades. We get 200.00 in credit for all upgrades whether it be featured auctions or not. To me, it was the best way to get exposure by being on the front page, and also having my items fed to Google. My hits have went way up too. My page ranking on Google for my store is number 4, so that is very good. Ola items are showing up on Google now.

I do agree that many things at OLA need to be fixed, but I do see them working on things, and the techs are more out and about to let us know whats going on. Before, we were left in the dark pretty much. Now, the webmaster makes his presence known, and he answers our questions on the boards.

I hope all of you know we hated that video as much as you guys did. It was terrible really, thats why none of us would post the link. And, someone from OLA alerted Elgato about the Youtube video so she or he could get right on it. I am sorry you had a bad experience on OLA. I wish you many happy sales where ever you park your bus. Very Happy

**#22**

Thew way I see it, a site has a small window of opportunity in which to become successful....sites will grown, gain momentum and become "the next thing"...they become the darling of sellers.....but this only lasts for a sjort time....sooner or later the site needs to step up to the plate and become relevant.....potential will only take a site so far....

Once that window of opportunity has closed it will not open again...people who supported the site will become disillusioned....sites only continue to exist because of a few diehard members who keep it on life support....it has happened with many sites here...you even see former site owners trying to resurrect sites that are dead and gone even though there is no chance for them to ever be relevant....even these sites will have diehard supporters fighting to keep a spark of life in the sites....

OLA, like so many other sites, had a chance...the ball was dropped and the moment has passed....time to give another site a chance, sooner or later, we'll get it right...but before we can truly focus on relevant alternatives we need to euthanize the dying, bury the dead, and move on to the new rising powers and hope that history does not repeat itself...

**#23**

Well we are going to get it a serious shot. Gearing up to list 8,000 items If I sell 100 a week, I'm happy. Could not do the same with eBay, I'd go broke. I heard Fain & it he sounds good. Just list list list, let it repost & let it go on. Buyers have to come if they can't find it on ebay

**#24**

PatchDog wrote (View Post): ›
Thew way I see it, a site has a small window of opportunity in which to become successful....sites will grown, gain momentum and become "the next thing"...they become the darling of sellers.....but this only lasts for a sjort time....sooner or later the site needs to step up to the plate and become relevant.....potential will only take a site so far....

Once that window of opportunity has closed it will not open again...people who supported the site will become disillusioned....sites only continue to exist because of a few diehard members who keep it on life support....it has happened with many sites here...you even see former site owners trying to resurrect sites that are dead and gone even though there is no chance for them to ever be relevant....even these sites will have diehard supporters fighting to keep a spark of life in the sites....

OLA, like so many other sites, had a chance...the ball was dropped and the moment has passed....time to give another site a chance, sooner or later, we'll get it right...but before we can truly focus on relevant alternatives we need to euthanize the dying, bury the dead, and move on to the new rising powers and hope that history does not repeat itself...

I have to agree and disagree...
From what I see, OLA has quite a few sales if you are willing to foot the bill for a month to build your listings there. 100-200 sales a day on the site, compared to others that get this in a month, isn't too shabby. You get what you pay for, but personally I would spend $8 a month to have decent sales. Lord knows I paid Wagglepop enough to sell very little for quite a while.

On the other hand... The OLA owners took in $140,000 in founding member fees in the past year. They could have spent a little bit of that to speed up the promised features. So, if you are thinking that your $196 founding member fee will help push the site closer to increasing the marketing plan, or adding new features, you may want to think twice and just keep it at $8/month. You can post a link to your auctions just as easily as a link to your store, and be able to walk away without feeling sick if it doesn't work for you. If you later find it works, then consider the founding member fee. That way, there are less reasons for hateful comments, and much more constructive criticism. True, there are sites that may deserve a little bit harsher criticism by the many who have been lied to, betrayed, abandoned, or just flat out ignored and forgotten, but not all sites are this way. No names though... I don't want to go off topic.

OLA could also get rid of the $4 verified buyer fee, but if buyers are willing to pay it...?

Each site, as long as it is functional and easy to join and shop, can work for a select few. Once you find yours, and build it, then you can have a sense off-eBay success. I don't see it happening with the bottom 15 or so on the auction site count, but it's all up to you which you pick.

But when you have a site that could really become an alternative, like Ebid, OLA, etc... Isn't that what everyone really wants? Get behind those that are going forward, and showing measurable success. If a site like Ebidor OLA became a successful alt site, then at least 1/2 of the 15,000+ members here would be ecstatic about paying $8 a month. But helping them get there is the key.

**#25**

bobarizona wrote (View Post): ›
Well we are going to get it a serious shot. Gearing up to list 8,000 items If I sell 100 a week, I'm happy. Could not do the same with eBay, I'd go broke. I heard Fain & it he sounds good. Just list list list, let it repost & let it go on. Buyers have to come if they can't find it on ebay

With over 16 million items listed for the past few weeks, they were averaging sales of 100 - 125 per day. You really think you can sell 100 per week?

If your items sell for more than $5.00 and you don't play games - it will take you more than a year to reach your goals (if then). Two of the biggest supporters/sellers who joined in February has only sold about 300 - 400 items and most of them sell for less than $5.00. The seller with one of the highest feedbacks has been a member since 2004 and has 50,000 items listed. He received 3 feedbacks in the past 30 days.

They need to have a completed search, advertising, and more advertising.

**#26**

They need to have a completed search, advertising, and more advertising.

I think Fain is going to give them that as soon as his loyal sellers finish their cup of Kool-Aid and cough up 10 bucks a piece to help him pay for the advertising. If anyone...anyone...gives Fain 10 bucks for advertising they need to have their head examined to see what flavor of Kool-Aid is stuck up there.

**#27**

Just so folks know, Chris Fain did NOT ask for $10.00 from anyone. Sellers at OLA have been known to come up with their own ideas (what a concept) and implement them. The rummage sale was seller conceived, organized, and ran. The open house sale was seller conceived, organized, and ran. This advertising idea is no different. Chris Fain asked for and has received nothing in relation to this current idea that is being discussed.

**#28**

So, what the sellers are doing is passing around the hat for donations to give to Fain to spend on advertising? I just don't get it. The money that you and others gave to Fain for monthly fees and memberships should be paying for advertising. Evidently advertising is very much a concern to the sellers in your group or you wouldn't be passing around the hat for donations.

I do know that you sellers did a LOT with stickers and blogs and letters and emails during your first Rummage Sale and Fain did little other than what he could accomplish with little cost or effort. Loyalty is loyalty and that is an excellent personal attribute; however, there are times when we have to open our eyes and see a spade for a spade and realize that we have been taken for a ride.

**#29**

If I'd forked over $200 bucks to a site where the owner does so little to promote it I'd be looking for ways to drum up some business too. It's called desperation. And, although Fain may not have requested money (not sure whether he did or not myself) he will most certainly take it, I'd wager. Anyone who gives Fain more money after being duped out of a couple of hundred dollars isn't thinking straight in my opinion. Now, if the Sellers are handling the money and the purchase of ads for OLA, meaning they aren't foolish enough to trust Fain, then bully for them. But, I'd be damned if I'd invest in a website that I didn't own. It's like giving Fain control of the traffic that your advertising dollars generate when all he's going to do is continue trying to take money for nothing. Afterall, it's worked pretty well for him so far.